~ OH DEAR.. A ‘Back In My Day’ post from a 1/2 centarian.
Ah, the olden days! Our songs, our dreams and goals, our minds were pondering life & jobs, but usually with dating, fabulously-haired boyfriend-girlfriend, and marriage as the goal. How different from the West in 2017.
The sexual revolution, broken homes, & feminism & biased divorce law & constant texting– all have made it clear to many younger men that hook-ups are barely worth it; relationships very risky, and marriage a non-starter. Many of these kids come from what we used to call broken homes, now.. uh ‘blended families’ or some such euphemistic lie.
Of my younger son and his immediate circle of 10 friends (18-24), only 1 has a current (short term) girlfriend. Others haven’t even been dating for AGES.. all their female friends or co-workers are just that, minus a hook-up here and there. Not with a bang or a whimper– just a “Meh?”
And their wider generation is very much the same… don’t dismiss this, for the family/ marriage/ kids Titanic is long past the iceberg moment.And babies? You’ll have to import people to have them…. you know, like the Khadrs. Or the welfare-people born in another land.
For a post-feminist Christian take on all this, try Dalrock.
~ OK, SO I HAVE seen the web-commercials for #Canada150, (official website) but apparently I’m mostly not invited. I saw every skin-colour/ race/ gender identity under the radar, 90% women, and a few white guys tagged on here and there. SMH.
I’ve had pre-Loyalist relatives here in Canada since the 1760s on one side, and as post-war newcomers (1955) from Scotland on the other. But.. just not Canadian enough. The men and women who built and suffered and sweat and spent to built this land into what it is all deserve our gratitude: and some of them were mine.
A Wee Bragging
All of my great uncles on one side served in WW2; another great uncle died serving his country in WW2 my Dad did 4 years airforce reserve, my brother 6 years artillery reserves, I helped organize part of the Legion VE 50 Day celebration for the Nova Scotia, and got to know & help many vets during my work… but, not Canadian enough?
This smug neo-Canada, this blood-soaked lying killing canting minoritarian crap-festival of political correctness and deception is not what I want to celebrate. Take your bullshyte Muslim socks and ghey parade pandering & stuff them, Mr. sub-Prime Minister. #NotMyCanada, this post-’68 zombie of newfangledness, Christian-baiting, Muslim violence & no-go zones, and identitarian politics up the wazoo.
All Canadians. All glad for God’s blessings on us. Together. One nation under heaven, from Sea To Sea To Sea, see? ~
O GOD, who providest for thy people by thy power, and rulest over them in love: Vouchsafe so to bless thy servant our Queen, and her Government in this Dominion of Canada, that thy people may dwell in peace and safety, and thy Church serve thee in all godly quietness; through Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, world without end. Amen.”
SO I’M LEARNING (if slowly) that there’s absolutely nobody more smarter than an intertube atheist. Nobody, ever, anywheres.
In Christian circles, there’s such a thing as “preaching to the choir”. In web-infidel circles, the comment sections everywhere are a veritable Echo Chamber of very smug, self-satisfied clevers who have read Same Harris, watched Bill Nye and read some Hitchins and the infamous Dawkins, and don’t you dare try and take them on, lowly fool! Christers and other pathetic defenders of mindless superstition, beware!
Mind you, most of these ‘experts’ are mostly not deeply educated on anything except ‘Atheism/ Agnosticism’, and have no scope of history, philosophy, Biblical knowledge, or interpretation larger than a few books, and several dozen YouTube videos. It’s a puddle, not a lake– let alone an ocean’s depth of true wisdom and education and insight.
On The Intertoobs
This is sad-making, for Binks. As I noted a few posts ago, I like the YouTube channels of self-proclaimed atheists like Sargon Of Akkad— to which I’d add HoneyBadgerRadio, Thunderf00t, Karen Straughan, Vernaculis, Woolly Bumblebee, ShoeOnHead, johntheother, Feminism LOL, and others.
But there’s a dirty secret about most of these ‘open-minded’ characters which I’ll now reveal– despite the fact these cultural libertarian guys & gals are all great in their own ways for smiting the feminist, SJW, and Cry-Bully tribes (their alienated fellow Leftists), they are still very tribal themselves, and generally won’t engage in actual discussion– however friendly & reasonable– with religious believers.. especially the smart and friendly ones with an education.
Nothing. Nada. Silence. Can’t be having none of that. I’ve tried.
I mean, We All Know™ that all the Christians are all American-style fundamentalist Westboro Baptist bigotted science-hating anti-intellectual flat-earthing creationists, right? Morons. Nitwits. Stupids, with a retarded and childish set of beliefs, right? Derpy derp derp.
Enter YouTube Atheist Christer-basher CyaLatte (an Aussie), as a typical example of the tiresomely godless folks I’ve run into online almost constantly (think: very vocal ex-smoker). CyaLatte’s been in a sniping-war in the YouTube comments with myself on this video, together with some other addled glutton for punishment named Jeff Rosenbury.
How do we tell which god is God? Well you might look at His creation and make some deductions using — science perhaps?Tolerance is not a scientific value. Science allows no forgiveness. There is no excuse for a wrong answer. Science does not place value on human life. Therefore the logical conclusion is to kill everyone who is wrong. (i.e. doesn’t agree with you, or perhaps has a low IQ, or whatever other criteria you scientifically conclude.)
Fortunately the weight of scientific evidence currently favors some sort of godlike being. (This has varied through scientific discoveries, so perhaps humans aren’t always right?) The odds of the physical constants of the universe being in the narrow range to support life randomly (even using some sort of evolutionary, “we’re here” algorithm) are astronomically in favor of intelligent design. (Odds aren’t proof of course, but they are a good way to bet.)
Further the odds that the universe is so simple that humans are the ultimate in complex intelligence are slim. It’s just hubris to think we’re the smartest thing out there.
So presuming God exists, what does He want from us, and should we give it to Him? Is tolerance something nice?
If He is in contact, presumably He wants us to follow that religion thing. But perhaps not.
“How do we tell which god is God? Well you might look at His creation and make some deductions using — science perhaps?”
Mate, that literately explains nothing. The “look around you” argument is null and void. It’s stupid, and you’re stupid for using it. Looking around, that’s what you chose to open with? Honestly this is so ridiculous I spat out my food in laughter when I read it.
If I was the most generous moron in the world and granted there must be a god by simply looking at the creation, that still doesn’t differentiate the God itself. What evidence do you have that it was (what I am assuming you believe in, correct me if I’m wrong) the Judaeo-Christian God? It could have been Odin, Zeus, Allah, or Vishnu, there is no evidence to say which on it is, and that is all assuming that looking around is enough to prove anything, which it isn’t by any standard of logic and reason.
“Tolerance is not a scientific value. Science allows no forgiveness.”
Science is not an conscious entity, so obviously not. And since when are Gods tolerant, the Judaeo-Christian god especially? One minute he’s laying down the law saying “thou shall not murder”, and a chapter later he orders genocide. That is not tolerance, that is hypocrisy. In regards to forgiveness, why do you need forgiveness? Have you raped someone? Have you murdered someone? If you have you don’t deserve forgiveness and any god that forgives rape or murder doesn’t deserve worship.
“Science does not place value on human life.”
Maybe because human life ISN’T special. Have you not considered that? Are you wrapped up so much in your own ego that you think that humans are the most important thing in the Universe? If anything humans have done more harm than good. All life is just bunch of carbon, water and a series of chemical reactions. You know what’s more important than humans? Stars, if not for them there wouldn’t have been carbon in the first place.
“Therefore the logical conclusion is to kill everyone who is wrong.”
No that’s not a logical conclusion, that’s a retarded conclusion.
Fortunately the weight of scientific evidence currently favors some sort of godlike being. (This has varied through scientific discoveries, so perhaps humans aren’t always right?) The odds of the physical constants of the universe being in the narrow range to support life randomly (even using some sort of evolutionary, “we’re here” algorithm) are astronomically in favor of intelligent design. (Odds aren’t proof of course, but they are a good way to bet.)”
There is zero scientific evidence that supports any sort of god, let alone a god invented my humans. Again, even if I’m moronically generous and assume there is a god there is no way to determine which is correct. I challenge you to find one, just one piece of evidence that has gone through the scientific process and given irrefutable proof that a god exists. And if you can manage to do that then do the same thing to prove that your god is the correct god. Until then you have no case.
“Further the odds that the universe is so simple that humans are the ultimate in complex intelligence are slim. It’s just hubris to think we’re the smartest thing out there.”
Odds are not proof of anything. Using them as an argument without any evidence to support your claim damages your own credibility further.
“So presuming God exists, what does He want from us, and should we give it to Him? Is tolerance something nice?”
You’re so stupid I don’t know why I bother.
“If He is in contact, presumably He wants us to follow that religion thing. But perhaps not.
Give it some thought.”
I can think about it all I like, and unless I suffer a massive brain injury tomorrow, or until irrefutable proof is given and passes all scientific standards
It must be lovely to be able to call other people ‘stupid’, that their beliefs & conclusions are ‘retarded’ and childish’; to mock and dismiss most people ever, including a lot of scientists and philosophers and great people.
Of course, I’m not using the following names to ‘prove’ that God or divinity exists, just to line up the people you theoretically dismiss as stupid, retarded, and childish for their belief in God/ a divine being.
Aristotle, Socrates, and Plato. Einstein. Moses & Jesus. St. Thomas Aquinas. Galileo. Leonardo. Sir Isaac Newton. Nicholas Copernicus.
The following Noble Laureates in Science are also for your list of stupid people who had some kind of agnostic or actual faith in God (mostly Jewish & Christian)–
So, CyaLatte– I guess along with that noted clueless doofus Jeff Rosenbury , I’ll more than happily stand on the side of the ancient pagan, Jewish, and Christian physicists, geneticists, mathematicians, philosophers, astronomers, inventors, botanists, architects, logicians, meteorologists, physicians, co-founders of the scientific method, chemists, minerologists, cartographers, mathematical physicists, and the rest of the ragbag of losers, retards, know-nothings, and stupids who don’t fit your remarkably narrow categories.
Seriously, CyaLatte– actual education is more than reading and regurgitating online the notions of the “New Atheists”, some few of whom as ‘noted scientists’ (Sam Harris? Nye? Dawkins?) are very dim lights indeed, compared to the full sweep of history, thought, and famous folks listed above.
Again, I’m not arguing from authority to prove or disprove anything– I’m just listing names which don’t fit your, well, dogmatic anti-religious bigotry. Reality is always a little more complicated and unsettling than we thought.
But, I’m just a stupid, with ‘retarded’ and childish’ beliefs.. just like all the people listed above.
A very interesting article– I used to view Molyneux vids, until that whole bald-faced lying about his wife’s professional troubles thing a while back. Never heard of the new age guru-ette woman before, but have known of similar people & groups in the past. As a convert Christian, this all looks like (a) any messiah but the Real One, and (b) any ‘healing’ of our broken selves except the Eternal One.
Some atheist will then chime in with their faith-statement and say “But ALL religions are false!” but duck and dodge when it comes to examining the logical and evidential status of scientific materialism/ empiricism as a sufficient analysis of all things human and true and good. Of course, longing for a messiah doesn’t mean that there ever was or will be one, or that there is any actual healing for the brokenness, finity, imperfection, and infinite longings of human beings. That should be obvious.
As the Greek philosophers like Aristotle argued [Nicomachean Ethics], such desire may never be satisfied, but at least it indicates that our end (Gk. ‘telos’ =destiny, true fulfillment, goal, final end, completion) lies not in ourselves or any other finite thing, knowledge, or state of being. That’s why Aristotle ends up saying our human goal is to imitate God, the prime mover and the telos of all things, including human beings.
So– misled & misleading people like Swan, or Molyneux, or the New Atheists raise more questions for me than simply “why are they wrong or right?’, but also ‘how are they pointing to the truth, however imperfectly?’– this versus ‘Truth is known only in the empirical’, or ‘See how foolish and irrational these believers in messiahs and salvation are?”
You seem fair-minded, insightful, and reasonable in your approach. Please surprise me by reading and responding to my comment, the latter never happening on other atheist-tribe sites (Sargon, Thunderf00t, Vernaculis, etc.), even when I’m just elaborating on their point, or praising what they said.
THE IDIOTIC idea that all must believe all reports of racist, sexist, homophobic, or other alleged attacks is a popular idiotic idea: all must “Listen And Believe!“
Why? Because like empty social media ‘celebrity’, potentially valuable victimhood can win you all the goodies, sympathy, attention, weepy protesters, and minions listening to you and believing you. Except, there’s a lot of attention-seeking liars out there, constantly crying wolf, and inventing hate-crimes for the media and permanently aggrieved to feeding-frenzy all over.
(1) Prove it. Evidence. Law. Witnesses. Investigation. The Feminist dirty-word ‘Facts’. Believe nothing legal until it is legally certain, however likely the guilt may be, or how unlikeable the alleged perp happens to be. Because digital lynch mobs can still ruin innocent lives, reputations, and put men in jail for years and years.
(2) Supposed perps? The law says: “Innocent until proven guilty”, not guilty until proven guilty, because someone belongs to some “guilty” group (men, males, heterosexuals, Christians, white men and women, non-poor people, conservatives, anyone who dares disagree with Victim Glorifying, and SJWism).
(3) That SJWs can’t and won’t police their own folks from alleging all sorts of death-threats, bomb-threats, and over-inflating online criticism into unbearable ‘hatred and harassment’ ( COUGHZoe, AnitaCOUGH )? Fact-lite, and useful fear-mongering heavy.
The cry of the Great Speckled Victim? “Help. Help. I’m being oppressed. Save me by dropping much moneys into my Patreon or Kickstarter, before They Get Me.” Cha-Chings.
Och Aye, The Noo
YouTuber 6oodfella has a great (if Scots & salty) video up on the whole matter, plus a heap of intertube links to false reports over the past few years. He tells it like it is, IMHO.
The irony? Crying wolf doesn’t mean there aren’t wolves, and that some people aren’t attacked for various reasons– it does mean that innocent victims might not be believed, and wolves may well get away with attacks. That would be precisely because of all the phony, self-seeking, and ‘consciousness-raising’ fakery, useful lies, and propagandistic noise from SJWs, feminists, militant homosexuals, disturbed individuals, and members of other privileged ‘victim’ groups.
#IBELIEVE? Well, that would be because you dislike or don’t understand either the principles of justice, or the purpose of law-courts, then. Shame on you for wanting possibly unprincipled, unjust, and wrong-headed vigilantism enforced by the state. ~
~ ITEM:Black woman attacks dreadlocked white man over ‘cultural appropriation’. This confrontation between two San Francisco State University students has been viewed more than a million times in little over a day
~ NEEEXT! SO, DREADLOCKS are the latest topic in the Black Lives Matters/ SJW/ perpetually offended culture wars. Because dem dreads belong only & forever to black people, mon!
Except… not? The Indian Hindus may have been doing this for many many thousands of years, before modern Jamaica & Rastafarians ever were.
Elsewhere, dreadlocks are everywhere in paganism, ancient artistic examples, and in not a few cultures: the Neolithic, Egyptian, Greek, Aztec, Biblical Hebrew, ancient India, South Pacific Islanders, Ethiopian (hence the Ethiopian Emperor, Ras Tafari, a.k.a. Haile Selassie I, 1930-1974, after whom the Rastas named themselves), Dervish (Sufi) Islam, ancient Celts and their druids (Shakespeare’s ‘Elflocks’).
Modernly speaking, dreadlocks are popular with Rastafarianism (which “… draws its belief from three main sources; the Hebrew Old Testament, African tribal culture, and Hindu tribal culture“), a.k.a. Rasta dreads = flagrant “Cultural Appropriation!!, hippies, vegans, stoners, surfers, goths, cyber goths, and fans of the Grateful Dead.
Hey You, Racist Whitey Man-Scum!
This ragingly racist and soft-fascist black woman (SFSU student Bonnie “Bonita” Tindle) seems informed or interested in history, art, culture, cultural appreciation, freedom of expression, or anything else. The feminist-entitled she-bigot (and her smirking sidekick) definitely were interested in harassing, judging, and technically assaulting Dude– down two flights of stairs, then with repeated grabbing and blocking his attempted escapes– all because he was a white (evil) man (evil) wearing dreads (evil), and because of what she (in her utter ignorance) only associates with modern black people.
Because Whoopee Goldberg. And, you know, cuz Google is, like WAY hard, and hard facts are sexist and just feel wrong.
Also, because the ‘aspiring filmmaker’ thought she was self-righteously correct versus a guilty offender, and probably could get away with it. Why? Dunno– maybe she thought nobody else was around (or recording things), except her friend as witness to the events.
In any case of “He said, she said”.. always trust the poor widdle shes, right? And “Lissen And Bleev“, plus the inevitable and lying “WELL, HE TOUCHED MY CHEST!” self-defence tactic. It’s all getting sadly predictable, lame, and transparent, isn’t it?
Flip All This Around, ‘K?
OK, so– imagine, if you will, the viral headline “White Racist Man Assaults Black Woman Because Of Her Appearance“. He’d be expelled so fast he’d hit light speed on the way out the door.
Then, EVERY news outlet, all the lefty-rad talking head shows, SJW websites, Black Lives Matter blogs, regressive Left YouTube channels, feminist forae, and the mainscream mass media would go completely and utterly rabid and full megaphone over this: judge, jury, and executioners all. One male life ruined? Worth it.
The actual events, as recorded on video?– why, it just doesn’t fit the pre-boiled narrative, wherein only rapey & racist white mens have teh cooties.. well, this– can’t even?.. uh.. but, how.. DOESN’T COMPUTE. IGNORE. REDIRECT.
One lame apologia article, tries to paint the victim (Dreads Dude) as the actual perpetrator, also mentions that the unfairly misunderstood Mz. Tindle may have grown up partly in foster-care. OK, that’s often unpleasant, but lots of other people have rotten kid-lives, and possible past suffering is still a crap excuse for mistreating other people, years later.
In fact, my difficult youth years mostly taught me to be kind, patient, and sympathetic, since you can never tell just what people are going through, plus, don’t bully or stomp people just for kicks. Leave things better than you found them.
Her Uppance Has Come
The expression when smirk-bully Mz. Bonita realized she was being recorded (and knew it would probably end up on YouTube?), and was totally busted as a racist, soft-fascist jerk? Just look. Dun dun DUUUUUNNN!
Finally, I hope this young woman repents, apologizes, makes good, and learns a lasting life-lesson about jumping to conclusions based on ignorance, and about assaulting people on the basis of bigotry and reverse-racism. This nasty road in U.S. culture wars leads to no good place. ~
* Note: to be completely fair, if this Mz. Tindle posts a response or defence of her actions online, I will link to them. Furthermore, I will consider you lower than an tax collector, publican, or SJW bully if you try and cyber-pester this nasty woman, because the web-gone-angry or cyber mobbery is a big big hammer on the head of an individual, however dislikable or deserving. Life itself is a punishment for this kind of person. She’s become a meme.
Her actual words, below the break. She is currently, sadly, a Black Marxist/ Feminist puppet spouting all the the usual dehumanizing and ‘It wasn’t my fault, the patriarchy did it” kind of mental and ideological avoidance behaviour, hiding the fact of who she is, what she did, and the racist bullying attack she tried to get away with. Sad.